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If you charge an [[electric vehicles|electric car]] with electricity that was generated by [[fossil fuels]], is it as bad for the environment as driving a gas car?
If you charge an [[electric vehicles|electric car]] with electricity that was generated by [[fossil fuels]], is it '''as bad''' for the environment as driving a gas car?


Short answer: '''Yes.'''
==Short answer==
<big>'''Yes.'''</big>


Long answer:
The carbon emissions, compared to a gasoline car, are approximately:
* 135% for coal power plants
* 89% for ''older'' natural gas power plants {{light|(more common)}}
* 56% for ''newer'' natural gas power plants {{light|(less common)}}


==Long answer==
The following calculations compare the average gasoline-powered vehicle with the average [[lithium-ion battery]]-based electric vehicle. Greenhouse gas emissions are in tonnes CO<sub>2</sub> equivalent (CO2eq):
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* no jevons paradox
* battery is the main difference in production emissions (EV as compared to gas car) (amortized over lifespan)
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'''Usage emissions''' <!-- not technically a heading. we don't want mediawiki to generate a table of contents. -->


''For coal power plants:''
{{dp
{{dp
|<nowiki>electric_car.efficiency</nowiki>
|<nowiki>electric_car.fuel_economy_equivalent</nowiki>
|<nowiki>100 miles per 34.6 kWh</nowiki>
|<nowiki>100 miles per 34.6 kWh</nowiki>
|<nowiki>The "gas mileage" equivalent for an average electric car.</nowiki>
|<nowiki>The "gas mileage" equivalent for an average electric car.</nowiki>
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|<nowiki>coal_power_plant.efficiency</nowiki>
|<nowiki>coal_power_plant.efficiency</nowiki>
|<nowiki>33%</nowiki>
|<nowiki>33%</nowiki>
|<nowiki>How much of the coal's heat energy becomes electricity</nowiki>
|<nowiki>How much of the coal's combustion heat energy becomes electricity</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Transformative Power Systems | Department of Energy</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
|<nowiki>Transformative Power Systems | Department of Energy</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
https://www.energy.gov/fecm/transformative-power-systems</nowiki>
https://www.energy.gov/fecm/transformative-power-systems</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|natural_gas_power_plant.efficiency
|33%
|How much of the gas combustion heat becomes electricity
|This stat is for simple (older tech) natural gas power plants. The efficiency is the same as for coal and nuclear power. The process is the same: Heat boils water, creates steam to drive a turbine.
}}
}}
{{dp
{{dp
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|<nowiki>25.4 miles per gallon gasoline</nowiki>
|<nowiki>25.4 miles per gallon gasoline</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Gas mileage of an average American new car</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Gas mileage of an average American new car</nowiki>
|<nowiki>This datapoint is conformable with [electric_car.efficiency], because the calculator understands 'gallon gasoline' as an energy unit.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
|<nowiki>This datapoint is conformable with [electric_car.fuel_economy_equivalent], because the calculator understands 'gallon gasoline' as an energy unit.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Citation:</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Citation:</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
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- Fuel economy in automobiles - Wikipedia</nowiki>
- Fuel economy in automobiles - Wikipedia</nowiki>
}}
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>coal.ghg_by_energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>95.35 kg / million btu</nowiki>
|<nowiki>CO2 emissions of burning coal</nowiki>
|<nowiki>https://www.eia.gov/environment/emissions/co2_vol_mass.php</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>gasoline.ghg_by_energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>71.30 kg / million btu</nowiki>
|<nowiki>CO2 emissions of burning gasoline</nowiki>
|<nowiki>https://www.eia.gov/environment/emissions/co2_vol_mass.php</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>usa.natural_gas.fugitive_ghg</nowiki>
|<nowiki>176.1 million tonnes / year</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Greenhouse gas CO2eq of fugitive methane leaks from all natural gas infrastructure in the USA</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks: 1990-2014</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/inventory-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-and-sinks-1990-2014</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
2016 Complete Report (PDF)</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Using data from 2014</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>usa.natural_gas.energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>27.9 quadrillion btu / year</nowiki>
|<nowiki>U.S. energy consumption from natural gas combustion only</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks: 1990-2014</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/inventory-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-and-sinks-1990-2014</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
2016 Complete Report (PDF)</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Datapoint was found on page 115, from pie chart and line graph, using data from 2014</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>natural_gas.fugitive_ghg_by_energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>usa.natural_gas.fugitive_ghg / usa.natural_gas.energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Fugitive emissions (CO2eq) of natural gas, per unit energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Average based on US datapoints.</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>natural_gas.ghg_by_energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>53.07 kg / million btu</nowiki>
|<nowiki>CO2 emissions of burning natural gas</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Does not include the fugitive methane emissions from unburned fuel. Those vary by how the gas is burned.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
https://www.eia.gov/environment/emissions/co2_vol_mass.php</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>ev.lifespan</nowiki>
|<nowiki>8 years</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Expected lifespan of an electric vehicle</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Batteries usually are the component that wears out first.</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>average_us_vehicle.mileage_by_time</nowiki>
|<nowiki>32 miles/day</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Distance driven by the average American vehicle</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Top Numbers Driving America's Gasoline Demand</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-issues/blog/2022/05/26/top-numbers-driving-americas-gasoline-demand</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
|<nowiki>natural_gas_combined_cycle_power_plant.efficiency</nowiki>
|<nowiki>60%</nowiki>
|<nowiki>How much of the natural gas's heat energy becomes electricity, in an advanced "combined cycle" power plant</nowiki>
|<nowiki>This is considered a "maximum" value - the best natural gas power plants achieve this.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Simpler/older natural gas plants (no combined cycle) have only an efficiency of 33%, same as [coal_power_plant.efficiency].</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Read more: https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Natural_gas_power_plant</nowiki>
}}
''For a gasoline car'' {{light|(typical usage)}}:
{{calc
{{calc
|electric_car.efficiency * li_ion.charge_discharge_efficiency * (100% - power_grid.losses) * coal_power_plant.efficiency
|average_us_vehicle.mileage_by_time / car.fuel_economy * gasoline.ghg_by_energy
|car.fuel_economy
|tonnes/year
|usage_emissions_if_gasoline_car
}}
}}


In other words, there's a ''very slight'' increase in overall fuel efficiency, but it's not much.
 
''For an EV charged by '''coal''' power plants'' {{light|(same amount of driving as above)}}:
{{calc
|average_us_vehicle.mileage_by_time / electric_car.fuel_economy_equivalent * coal.ghg_by_energy / coal_power_plant.efficiency / (100% - power_grid.losses) / li_ion.charge_discharge_efficiency
|tonnes/year
|usage_emissions_if_EV_coal
}}




''For natural gas power plants'':
''For an EV charged by '''natural gas''' power plants'' {{light|(same amount of driving)}}:
{{calc
|average_us_vehicle.mileage_by_time / electric_car.fuel_economy_equivalent * (natural_gas.ghg_by_energy + natural_gas.fugitive_ghg_by_energy) / natural_gas_power_plant.efficiency / (100% - power_grid.losses) / li_ion.charge_discharge_efficiency
|tonnes/year
|usage_emissions_if_EV_natural_gas
}}


Some have the same efficiency as coal power plants (33%). Results would be about the same as above.


''Other'' natural gas power plants (the more advanced "combined-cycle" type) are more efficient: up to 60%:
''For an EV charged by advanced {{light|(combined-cycle type)}} natural gas power plants'' {{light|(same amount of driving)}}:
{{calc
|average_us_vehicle.mileage_by_time / electric_car.fuel_economy_equivalent * (natural_gas.ghg_by_energy + natural_gas.fugitive_ghg_by_energy) / natural_gas_combined_cycle_power_plant.efficiency / (100% - power_grid.losses) / li_ion.charge_discharge_efficiency
|tonnes/year
|usage_emissions_if_EV_advanced_natural_gas
}}
 
 
'''Battery production emissions''' <!-- not technically a heading. we don't want mediawiki to generate a table of contents. -->
 
So far, we still haven't counted the environmental impact of ''making'' an electric car, which is significantly more than for a gasoline-powered car.
 
For simplicity sake, let's assume that ''batteries'' account for the entire difference between electric cars and gasoline cars, in terms of GHG emissions of ''production'' divided by vehicle ''lifespan''. {{x|A gasoline vehicle is a bit more complex than a batteryless EV, but the former also has a longer lifespan.}}
 
{{dp
|<nowiki>ev.battery</nowiki>
|<nowiki>65.2 kWh</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Energy capacity of the average electric vehicle battery</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Useable battery capacity of full electric vehicles</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
https://ev-database.org/cheatsheet/useable-battery-capacity-electric-car</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
</nowiki>
}}
{{dp
{{dp
|<nowiki>natural_gas_combined_cycle_power_plant.efficiency</nowiki>
|<nowiki>li_ion.ghg_by_energy</nowiki>
|<nowiki>60%</nowiki>
|<nowiki>73 kg / kWh</nowiki>
|<nowiki>How much of the natural gas's heat energy becomes electricity, in an advanced "combined cycle" power plant</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Greenhouse gas emissions (CO2eq) of producing a lithium-ion battery</nowiki>
|<nowiki>This is considered a "maximum" value - the best natural gas power plants achieve this.</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
|<nowiki>"by energy" here means "by the size of the battery, defined by how much energy can be stored".</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Simpler/older natural gas plants (no combined cycle) have only an efficiency of 33%, same as [coal_power_plant.efficiency].</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
Read more: https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Natural_gas_power_plant</nowiki>
What is the environmental impact of lithium batteries? - Changeit ...</nowiki><br /><nowiki>
changeit.app › blog › 2021-03-26-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries </nowiki>
}}
}}
''For battery production:''
{{calc
{{calc
|electric_car.efficiency * li_ion.charge_discharge_efficiency * (100% - power_grid.losses) * natural_gas_combined_cycle_power_plant.efficiency
|ev.battery * li_ion.ghg_by_energy / ev.lifespan
|car.fuel_economy
|tonnes/year
|battery_emissions
}}
}}


In this case (electric car + advanced natural gas power), we do in fact cut our emissions in half. But this doesn't apply to older, simpler natural gas power plants.


<small>A note on precision: {{x|In theory, coal and natural gas have different GHG emissions per unit energy (which we didn't factor in, and maybe we should for best precision). But in practice, they're about the same, due to [[natural gas#fugitive emissions]]. Both are close enough to gasoline, for the purpose of the calculations above.}}</small>


'''''Now, for the final comparison:'''''
{{calc
|usage_emissions_if_EV_coal + battery_emissions
|% usage_emissions_if_gasoline_car
}}
{{calc
|usage_emissions_if_EV_natural_gas + battery_emissions
|% usage_emissions_if_gasoline_car
}}
{{calc
|usage_emissions_if_EV_advanced_natural_gas + battery_emissions
|% usage_emissions_if_gasoline_car
}}
Thus, with coal power, emissions are ''worse'' than driving a gasoline-powered car. But for ''advanced'' natural gas power plants, emissions are about ''half''. In either case, this doesn't count the other environmental impacts {{light|(non-CO<sub>2</sub>)}} of mining lithium & cobalt.


But so far, we still haven't counted the environmental impact of ''making'' an electric car, which is significantly more than for a gasoline-powered car.{{qn}}
Maybe there would be a good case for fossil-fuel-electricity-powered vehicles if [[carbon capture and storage]] could be fully & safely applied to the power plants.
* Note: This varies by the ''type'' of batteries used.<!-- TODO: bring in data from other pages?: energy to manufacture batteries; minerals involved -->


When that's factored in, there's probably no benefit to having an electric car in the coal-power scenario, and only ''moderate'' benefit in the advanced-natural-gas-power scenario.
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