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Tl;dr: The limit is about '''17 g protein/day''' per person - in total, from all grass-fed ruminants (cows, mostly) and wild-caught fish. | |||
==Farming== | ==Farming== | ||
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This raises a more important question: | This raises a more important question: | ||
:'''If farm animals only ever ate...''' | |||
:If farm animals only ever ate... | :* grasses and other plants from pasture & range{{x|especially from biodiverse natural lands that keep a lot of carbon stored in the roots of plants}}, and | ||
:* grasses and other plants from pasture & range {{x|especially from biodiverse natural lands that keep a lot of carbon stored in the roots of plants}}, and | :* the parts of food crops that humans ''can't'' eat{{x|for example corn cobs after the kernels have been removed (ruminants can digest certain kinds of fibrous matter that other species can't)}}, | ||
:* the parts of food crops that humans ''can't'' eat {{x|for example corn cobs after the kernels have been removed (ruminants can digest certain kinds of fibrous matter that other species can't)}}, | :'''and never...''' | ||
:and never... | :* human-edible food crops{{x|including corn and soy as those could be made into flour}} {{x|''Grey area'': Perhaps also include "spent grains" and "fryer waste oil" here, because the original materials ''were'' human-edible, and the downgrading was a choice.}}, nor | ||
:* human-edible food crops {{x|including corn and soy as those could be made into flour}} {{x|''Grey area'': Perhaps also include "spent grains" and "fryer waste oil" because the original materials were human-edible, and the downgrading was a choice}}, nor | :* crops grown specifically for animal feed{{x|''Grey area'': Perhaps also include the more superficial types of "pasture" that are monoculture-like and don't keep a lot of permanent roots. The exact definition can be specified in the answer to the question.}}, | ||
:* crops grown specifically for animal feed {{x|''Grey area'': Perhaps also include the more superficial types of "pasture" that are monoculture-like and don't keep a lot of permanent roots. The exact definition can be specified in the answer to the question.}}, | :'''how much animal protein{{x|from meat, milk and/or eggs etc}} could be produced?''' | ||
:how much animal protein {{x|from meat, milk and/or eggs etc}} could be produced? | |||
Clearly it's less than the ''status quo'', as there are fewer sources of feed. But ''how much'' less? | Clearly it's less than the ''status quo'', as there are fewer sources of feed. But ''how much'' less? |
Revision as of 04:18, 14 March 2023
Tl;dr: The limit is about 17 g protein/day per person - in total, from all grass-fed ruminants (cows, mostly) and wild-caught fish.
Farming
- Vegans rightly point out that meat-containing diets require more land (and thus more deforestation). Feeding crops to animals is a net loss of protein and calories. But...
- Pro-meat folks rightly point out that some land is only suited for grazing animals. And unlike humans, cows can live on eating grass
(...)( and so can buffalo, sheep and goats. But chickens & pigs can't. ) .
This raises a more important question:
- If farm animals only ever ate...
- grasses and other plants from pasture & range
(...)( especially from biodiverse natural lands that keep a lot of carbon stored in the roots of plants ) , and - the parts of food crops that humans can't eat
(...)( for example corn cobs after the kernels have been removed (ruminants can digest certain kinds of fibrous matter that other species can't) ) ,
- grasses and other plants from pasture & range
- and never...
- human-edible food crops
(...)( including corn and soy as those could be made into flour ) (...)( Grey area: Perhaps also include "spent grains" and "fryer waste oil" here, because the original materials were human-edible, and the downgrading was a choice. ) , nor - crops grown specifically for animal feed
(...)( Grey area: Perhaps also include the more superficial types of "pasture" that are monoculture-like and don't keep a lot of permanent roots. The exact definition can be specified in the answer to the question. ) ,
- human-edible food crops
- how much animal protein
(...)( from meat, milk and/or eggs etc ) could be produced?
Clearly it's less than the status quo, as there are fewer sources of feed. But how much less?
Estimate
About 12 grams of animal protein per day, per capita, globally.
This includes both meat and dairy, from all animals (ruminants).
Breewood, H. & Garnett, T. (2020). What is feed-food competition? (Foodsource: building blocks). Food Climate Research Network, University of Oxford.
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References primary source:
Mottet, A., de Haan, C., Falcucci, A., Tempio, G., Opio, C., & Gerber, P. (2017). Livestock: On our plates or eating at our table? A new analysis of the feed/food debate. Global Food Security.
Soybean meal is not counted here, because it can be turned into human food (soy flour).
Source:
Breewood, H. & Garnett, T. (2020). What is feed-food competition? (Foodsource: building blocks). Food Climate Research Network, University of Oxford.
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References primary source:
Mottet, A., de Haan, C., Falcucci, A., Tempio, G., Opio, C., & Gerber, P. (2017). Livestock: On our plates or eating at our table? A new analysis of the feed/food debate. Global Food Security.
Source:
Mottet, A., de Haan, C., Falcucci, A., Tempio, G., Opio, C., & Gerber, P. (2017). Livestock: On our plates or eating at our table? A new analysis of the feed/food debate. Global Food Security.
The number is mentioned in the Abstract: https://www.tabledebates.org/research-library/livestock-our-plates-or-eating-our-table
^ Total amount of protein from both meat and dairy, combined. (calculation loading)
This is less than the status quo, because the animals wouldn't be fed corn grain or soybean meal
Status quo
Ruminants (cows, buffalo, goats and sheep) produce a total of about 16 grams of protein per day per capita globally.
- 10 g protein/day from milk
(...)( from 297 mL/day of milk ) per capita - 6 g protein/day from meat
(...)( from 30 g/day of meat ) per capita - This was calculated in Code:food2.sql.
Some of this food goes to waste unfortunately, but there might be ways to mitigate that problem.
Grass-fed animal production can't really increase without destroying forests and other wildlife, because most of the world's farmland is already pasture, and that's not even counting rangelands which are also already grazed upon.
Hunting
Hunter-gatherer lifestyles were sustainable in prehistoric times when the world population was less than 0.1 billion - today we are at 8.0 billion. Hunting might be a great survival tactic if you're lost in the woods. But it's not going to feed the world. There would be mass extinctions of wild animals if we tried.
Fishing
Wild-caught fish could provide 5 or 6 grams/day of protein per capita globally, if none of it was wasted.
Using most recent data available.
Fishing grew a lot from 1960 to 1990 but (unlike fish farming) has not increased since 1995. This suggests that we've reached the ecological limit.
https://ourworldindata.org/fish-and-overfishing
Last updated in 2023
Grams of fish: Grams of protein: (calculation loading) (calculation loading)
The sustainable level of consumption might be a bit less than this, because overfishing is still an issue.
The rest of fish is farmed, which, as mentioned earlier, is a net loss of protein. Farmed fish are fed food crops that humans could otherwise eat.