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==Viability==
==Viability==
In peak sunlight, how long might it take to charge one vehicle from 0% to 100%:
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In peak sunlight, how long would it take to provide a full charge:
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<small>Caveats:</small> {{p|- Would take longer if multiple vehicles are plugged in.<br />- Would take less time if the gas station canopy is bigger.<br />- Might take longer due to some minor energy losses. Should <code>li_ion.charge_discharge_efficiency</code> be factored in or not?<br />- The more [[solar/challenge 1|viable solar panels]] might be less efficient, which would also slow the charging. But the panels would be cheaper, so it might still make economic sense.<br />- Is a 0%-to-100% charge even a common customer use-case? Maybe solar gas station rooftops could be mostly just for top-ups, which would be fine if they were commonplace.}}
<small>Caveats:</small> {{p|- Would take longer if multiple vehicles are plugged in.<br />- Would take less time if the gas station canopy is bigger.<br />- Might take longer due to some minor energy losses. Should <code>li_ion.charge_discharge_efficiency</code> be factored in or not?<br />- The more [[solar/challenge 1|scaleable solar panels]] might be less efficient, which would also slow the charging. But the panels would be cheaper, so it might still make economic sense.<br />- Is a 0%-to-100% charge even a common customer use-case? Maybe solar gas station rooftops could be mostly just for top-ups, which would be fine if they were commonplace.<br />- Battery/charger capabilities might still limit charge speed in some cases.}}


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Would there be enough gas stations:
If all vehicles were electric, and all gas stations were repurposed with solar panels to the roof, would that alone be enough to charge all the vehicles? Short answer: No. Not even close:
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Short answer: No.
<small>Note: {{x|The USA is used in this calculation, but the answer probably wouldn't be ''much'' different in other countries.}} {{x|The calculation illustrates how little time each vehicle would get for charging. Nowhere near enough, when you consider the earlier calculation.}}</small>


We'd have to build a lot of new [[solar charging stations]] (which might still ''look like'' gas station roofs). Existing suburban houses could ''also'' provide enough [[rooftop solar]] for all the vehicles, but people's cars aren't generally parked at home during the day. Then again, that's not a major problem. Suburban homes could dump their excess energy into the power grid which could charge vehicles elsewhere in the city.
We'd have to build a lot of new [[solar charging stations]] (which might still ''look like'' gas station roofs). Existing suburban houses could ''also'' provide enough [[rooftop solar]] for all the vehicles, but people's cars aren't generally parked at home during the day. Then again, that's not a major problem. Suburban homes could dump their excess energy into the power grid which could charge vehicles elsewhere in the city during the day.


==Design challanges==
==Design challanges==