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  ''If done right,'' this could be a main [[energy]] source for the world.
  ''If done right,'' this could be a main [[energy]] source for the world.
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==Considerations==
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==Intermittency==
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{{sum|Needs [[energy storage]]}}
|Needs [[energy storage]]
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|[[#Rare metals]]
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|[[#Need for land]]
|Usually ''not'' a problem
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|[[#EROI]]
|Needs improvement
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===Intermittency===
The sun only shines during the day. Solar electricity{{x|if used as a main energy source}}would need ''at least'' enough [[energy storage]] to cover a full 24-hour cycle - or maybe a bit more.
The sun only shines during the day. Solar electricity{{x|if used as a main energy source}}would need ''at least'' enough [[energy storage]] to cover a full 24-hour cycle - or maybe a bit more.


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Energy storage is an [[The great battery challenge|ongoing challenge]]. Best candidates for solar might be [[iron-redox flow batteries]] or [[sodium-sulfur batteries]].
Energy storage is an [[The great battery challenge|ongoing challenge]]. Best candidates for solar might be [[iron-redox flow batteries]] or [[sodium-sulfur batteries]].


===Rare metals===
==Rare metals==
{{sum|Major problem}}
 
''Thin-film photovoltaics'' are the most common types of solar panels used today. They are relatively efficient, but '''depend heavily''' on rare minerals. There's simply no way they could be scaled up enough to replace fossil fuels. <br />{{more|Solar panel minerals}}
''Thin-film photovoltaics'' are the most common types of solar panels used today. They are relatively efficient, but '''depend heavily''' on rare minerals. There's simply no way they could be scaled up enough to replace fossil fuels. <br />{{more|Solar panel minerals}}


'''Solution:''' Find some other photovoltaic tech based on more abundant minerals. Sacrificing some efficiency is okay, for the sake of making cheaper, more scalable solar panels. <br />{{more|solar/challenge 1}}
'''Solution:''' Find some other photovoltaic tech based on more abundant minerals. Sacrificing some efficiency is okay, for the sake of making cheaper, more scalable solar panels. <br />{{more|solar/challenge 1}}


===Need for land===
==Need for land==
{{sum|Usually ''not'' a problem}}
 
[[Solar rooftops]] have enough surface area to power most of the world. Very dense cities are an exception, if they aren't surrounded by enough suburbs. Houses, if the rooftop is fully covered in solar panels, can generally produce ''surplus'' power which could power inner cities. <br />{{more|Rooftop solar}}
[[Solar rooftops]] have enough surface area to power most of the world. Very dense cities are an exception, if they aren't surrounded by enough suburbs. Houses, if the rooftop is fully covered in solar panels, can generally produce ''surplus'' power which could power inner cities. <br />{{more|Rooftop solar}}


[[Solar farms]] would be needed in cases where solar rooftops aren't enough. Some amount of [[land]] would be needed{{qn}}, but far less than what is used for agriculture. Solar panels would best be placed in areas with no fertile soil. They don't play well with agriculture, because (unlike [[wind]] power) solar panels block the sun that plants need to grow. {{x|There are some crops that like shade, but they could have just as well been grown in the shade of full sun crops. See: [[polyculture]] }}
[[Solar farms]] would be needed in cases where solar rooftops aren't enough. Some amount of [[land]] would be needed{{qn}}, but far less than what is used for agriculture. Solar panels should best be placed in areas with no fertile soil. They don't play well with agriculture, because (unlike [[wind]] power) solar panels block the sun that plants need to grow. Sure there are some crops that like the shade, but they could have just as well been grown in the shade of full-sun crops. See: [[polyculture]].
 
==Energy in production==
{{sum|Fair / maybe needs improvement}}


===EROI===
[[Energy return on investment]]: about 7.5.
[[Energy return on investment]]: about 7.5.


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4 years is a long time, which means that switching to solar might need a lot of fossil fuels to "get the ball rolling". A shorter energy payback time is a worthwhile goal, mentioned in: [[solar/challenge 1]].
4 years is a long time, which means that switching to solar might need a lot of fossil fuels to "get the ball rolling". A shorter energy payback time is a worthwhile goal, mentioned in: [[solar/challenge 1]].
==See also==
* [[Concentrator photovoltaics]]
* [[Energy]]

Revision as of 13:15, 16 May 2023

Photovoltaic solar panels

Photovoltaics are any solar panels that produce electricity.

Not to be confused with solar thermal panels (non-electric) which just heat air or water in the sun.

Intermittency

The sun only shines during the day. Solar electricity(...)( if used as a main energy source )would need at least enough energy storage to cover a full 24-hour cycle - or maybe a bit more.

Cloudy & overcast days still produce a generous amount of power, although slightly less. Heavy rain can be an exception.

Energy storage is an ongoing challenge. Best candidates for solar might be iron-redox flow batteries or sodium-sulfur batteries.

Rare metals

Major problem

Thin-film photovoltaics are the most common types of solar panels used today. They are relatively efficient, but depend heavily on rare minerals. There's simply no way they could be scaled up enough to replace fossil fuels.
Read more: Solar panel minerals

Solution: Find some other photovoltaic tech based on more abundant minerals. Sacrificing some efficiency is okay, for the sake of making cheaper, more scalable solar panels.
Read more: solar/challenge 1

Need for land

Usually not a problem

Solar rooftops have enough surface area to power most of the world. Very dense cities are an exception, if they aren't surrounded by enough suburbs. Houses, if the rooftop is fully covered in solar panels, can generally produce surplus power which could power inner cities.
Read more: Rooftop solar

Solar farms would be needed in cases where solar rooftops aren't enough. Some amount of land would be needed[QUANTIFICATION needed], but far less than what is used for agriculture. Solar panels should best be placed in areas with no fertile soil. They don't play well with agriculture, because (unlike wind power) solar panels block the sun that plants need to grow. Sure there are some crops that like the shade, but they could have just as well been grown in the shade of full-sun crops. See: polyculture.

Energy in production

Fair / maybe needs improvement

Energy return on investment: about 7.5.

Solar panels are estimated to have an "energy payback" of about 4 years.[citation needed] In other words, for all the energy it takes to manufacture a solar panel, the solar panel will generate the same amount of energy after about 4 years of being installed. Since a solar panel is expected to last about 30 years, this comes out to an EROI ratio of 7.5.

4 years is a long time, which means that switching to solar might need a lot of fossil fuels to "get the ball rolling". A shorter energy payback time is a worthwhile goal, mentioned in: solar/challenge 1.

See also